White Men that Love Black Women: Their Reasons Why

Click here: => waidensoper.fastdownloadcloud.ru/dt?s=YToyOntzOjc6InJlZmVyZXIiO3M6MzA6Imh0dHA6Ly9iYW5kY2FtcC5jb21fZHRfcG9zdGVyLyI7czozOiJrZXkiO3M6MzU6IldoeSBkbyBtZW4gbm90IGRhdGUgYmVhdXRpZnVsIHdvbWVuIjt9


That I or my buddies bedded attractive hooker look-alikes? If she is an actress or model this counts 10x. There were two versions of each face - one with slightly more feminine and the other more masculine features.

Vimeo Some articles have Vimeo videos embedded in them. I remember that I took my vows very seriously, and the great lengths to which I went to keep them. There was a semi-recent story in Bloomberg, and it quoted a young couple who were about to start having a family.

White Men that Love Black Women: Their Reasons Why

Most men, when questioned, would welcome the opportunity to date and marry an extremely beautiful woman. That being said, there is one question associated with this reality that we too rarely seem to ponder: how many men are really capable of handling a full-time, committed relationship with a physically elite woman? Of all the men who dream of dating the models and beauty queens of the world, how many are truly capable of maintaining a healthy, long-term relationship with them? Recently, Andrew Stern showed us what : This picture reveals Andrew Stern, the estranged husband of model Katie Cleary, out partying with friends in Beverly Hills just hours before he went to a gun range and killed himself. The group went on to a club in Hollywood where a new DJ was spinning. Andrew even posted a photo of him and some pals at the party on Saturday night on his facebook page. It was the last picture of the heartbroken husband. Just hours later at around midday on Sunday he turned a gun on himself at a shooting range in Van Nuys, 15 miles from the upmarket eatery. So, why did Stern off himself? What drove this affluent, good-looking man to the edge and, eventually, off the edge? She was the one that wanted the divorce. He was so upset over it, he just could not get over it, he could not mentally move on. He began investing even more money and more time into his charity and fundraising work… He got sad. His struggling marriage to Cleary was not to blame for his suicide but just added to his pain because of the fantasy he had about their life together, the friend said. Like his fantasy of her. He would talk about her in ideal terms. He idolized her and wanted her to himself, maybe a little too much. He gave her all the freedom she wanted for her career. It is difficult to overstate how challenging it can be to get involved with a physically attractive woman like this who is also an extroverted, highly flirtatious and aggressive attention seeker. Women of this type have become substantially more common in the modern age, as narcissistic millenials grow up with the presence of social media and the smart phone, along with an increasingly less traditional culture more concerned with clubbing and what Justin Bieber ate for lunch than family formation. This is the beautiful woman who is so insecure about her beauty that she requires constant validation of it in the form of blatant attention from other men, and she will often directly seek out such attention herself. To some degree, this kind of woman will always value the attention of other random individuals more than she values the attention you give her. If at any time you appear to be getting too close to that ideal you want you two are starting to look like a set pair and she is starting to look like she is truly off the market and in your orbit entirely , she will adjust by deliberately seeking attention from other men in order to balance things out. The , the easier it is for her to satisfy her insecurity, and the harder it is for you as a man to deal with her. The part of Hollywood life that she liked but is very superficial. That was her doing. She was just so hard on him. He always felt like he was about to lose her and was always chasing her. She always flirted with men all the time in front of him and this hurt him…. This was always the case with her and every woman. Hollywood women did him in. And Katie was the worst of them. Very self-motivated, a real climber, climbing up Drew to get to bigger stars. These women physically attractive women who are aggressive attention seekers inflict the most damage on men who have made deep emotional investments in them and are seeking some sort of romantic reciprocity. The notion that she is instead possibly allowing other men to have her implied by her direct efforts to seek and welcome their attention even as she pulls away from him will simply crush his soul. He will be left with a very empty, dark feeling, and arrive at one of the most hopeless emotional states you can ever hope to reach as a man. When you avoid investing emotionally in these women, you essentially cut this dynamic off at the knees. At the end of the day, the physically attractive woman who aggressively seeks attention exercises great control over the emotional, physical and psychological well-being of the men that invest too much emotionally in her investment which, I must note, she depends on to some degree in order to feed her validation. She cannot control those men who do not make this investment. If you want to deal with these women and give yourself the best chance to remain sane, you limit that emotional investment. Granted, this is easier said than done as such women are very good at drawing that emotional investment from the men they associate with they need to be because, as I said earlier, they depend on that investment for validation. Men like Andrew Stern are simply not equipped to handle this kind of situation. As a physically elite woman with an aggressive attention-seeking streak, Cleary was going to get a lot of looks from a lot of men. The type of man that can handle Cleary is one who is not only very confident and secure in himself, but not overly emotionally invested in her either to a point at which she cannot easily control him. Such a man is, essentially, the oak I referenced in. Andrew Stern was not that oak. He was, as his close friend described him… Drew was a good-looking guy. No problem getting girls but he had a problem keeping them. He likes to keep to himself. Very quiet and kind of a nerdy guy with a big heart and super nice. As a man who once perfectly fit the description of Stern above, and probably still does to some extent, I speak from experience when I say that this relationship was bound to implode before long and that Stern was certain to get the worst of it. Her selfish, domineering, and entitled behavior is about what you would expect. He should have known what he was getting. Of course, a more nurturing, caring type would have been just the ticket for this poor soul. He had no identity of his own. He was a slave to what others thought of him. He was empty inside because his entire life was focused on false status, on collecting trophies, and on impressing everyone around him. Because he could fool everyone but himself. At the end of the day, he had to look at himself in the mirror. And all he saw was a scared rat. He is a deeply insecure, flawed person. Others have noted here that he likely was medicated. Men are not mechanical contrivances. To sustain us, we need something deeper, more profound, something that comes from within. And this person never cultivated his own identity. There are many men like this today, floating around, their chests puffed up with false arrogance, that one pinprick of hardship will deflate. As Scorpion on the forum: The girl is a hard 9 touching 9. She is the equivalent of handing a 16 year old kid a bottle of Everclear and a Ferrari. This guy was just in way over his head. He managed to get his hands on way more woman than he was capable of handling. And just like in any other area of life, when you get in over your head bad things usually happen. It is one thing to seek relationships with very beautiful women, but it is another thing entirely to do so absent any consideration of. If you want to have beautiful women in your life, you had best make sure that you are the kind of man capable not only of attracting them, but keeping them around. If you take the time to ensure that you have made and maintained these necessary improvements, these women could bring a lot of value to your life. Read Next: Brethren She is fine as fuck, but this Stern dude should have done some more homework. Barring a last minute engagement call-off with her past fiance or being widowed, what the fuck has she been doing for the past 15 years? Certainly not raising a family or proving her femininity in any reasonable way. I looked at one of her videos on the forum talking about her ex boyfriends. Very very few women can get unlimited, or even a good chunk of attention from famous and rich men. Brethren I must diverge. We have to be Luddites thanks for making me Google some industrial history with something which is so blatantly hurting us. This medium is like no medium ever before. Women used to be lucky to get one compliment a day from a stranger, plus the compliments of her significant others cock. Social media compliments are like sex for them, imagine if we could get laid just by pushing some buttons? Google social media use male vs female for some obvious statistics. I have this ultra-optimistic view that within the next 10 years social media will become obsolete within the male community. The main points have definitely been covered, but we need a broader societal mens movement away from social media in general. Men need to realize how much they damage themselves by liking pictures and statuses. Its do or die right now with social media, either we kill it or it will kill us. Of course I wonder what would happen if men stopped using social media altogether. Would female-female attention be enough for them? Or would they seek male attention in other formats? Media intervenes, and he loses multibillion dollar franchise due to his relationship with a 7 at best. Tinder Guy: Started multimillion-dollar worldwide popular dating app owns the company etc etc, a woman in the office fucked him and sued him. The state intervenes, Tinder guy loses his position. Everyone on this site would switch cocks with him. Remember, this dude was not only good looking and financially successful, but he was on TV. On a dating show watched almost exclusively by young women. Living in Beverly Hills. I feel awful for Stern. We should all create multiple hobbies and friendships which are women free. It can only hurt you. Swashbuckler Poor poor Stern. In fact, she should invest in you more than you invest in her. It has NOTHING to do with looks or money or status. Just keep her as one of several girlfriends. The message is clear here: Money will not save the beta male. It was the swagger that he lost that got him to off himself. However, when the king lion comes and takes his food, the lioness always shows a little bit of resistance and defiance, which the lion has to respond to. Hates Predatory Females If you had a really good looking mother that was a narcissist, cunt, piece-of-shit and nagged the fuck out of your dad and every other man she screwed; you end up attracted to these types of women. My guess is this guy never got to the point in therapy where he realized what a manipulative shit-bag his own mother was. I guess he gave all the women in his life something to remember. What a fucked up mother fucker. I want the fucking 10 dammit! Steve H I am currently in Medellin Colombia on one of my many vacations that I take here. The woman who is the focus of this story is certainly beautiful but would be a face in the crowd down here. I have found that beautiful women here are culturally driven to seek a man. Since I am gringo I frequently meet and bed women as beautiful or more beautiful than the woman of this story I am OK shape, not ugly, 49 years old. It is considered very bad manners for the paisitas to flirt with other men while they are out with you. There is a saying in Spanish I have heard but cannot remember that women repeat that alludes to how their beauty will fade over time and they should not depend on it to win a man. This is why the Latinas are so sweet down here and try to please. Here are two girls I know down here. Make improvements for your own well-being, not to satisfy the depraved, psychotic needs of some useless gash. The Lion King These women do bring value to your life. But women like that open a whole lot of doors to you, from night clubs, social circles, connections, other girls just to state a few. Girls that are deemed very desirable by most people are useful as shiit, its a whole other dimension. Trust me on that. Hipstersstink Sure they do — if your just as pretentious, vain and shallow as them. Ohh the girl can get you in the hottest night clubs? Well then, do as your told! Give me a break. You can get that pretentious access just by banging them every now and then. The Lion King wow, careful on your hate. And who talks about just clubs, since Im not a club guy. They will reward you for being the only to know how to control them. I think you missed the point of the article. As such you will not be seriously troubled by them. I can tell you that the company of beautiful women is one of the finest pleasures on this Earth. You are limiting yourself and perhaps revealing insecurities on your own part by not partaking in their presence. Praying to the cult of degenerate vagina must be hard on your knees. Have you considered using a pillow to kneel upon? Notice how quick she was to shit on a man when she viewed him as beneath her? When you are above their level they will try very hard to ingratiate themselves to you. Here come the pussy beggars. I stopped idealizing women and placing them on pedestals and that alone got me more sex. There is a reason no seasoned cocksmith marries. It is because of his experience with women he knows their true nature, coupled with the whole sham of marriage and relationship and being played for a sucker is bound to make many men feel bitter and for good reason. First, its in bad form to speak for someone else, especially if you do not know them. We have all been through the wringer here but that in no way justifies his comments or his obvious feelings of inadequacy. Actually, to me he sounds like someone with limited experience of women, who tries to pull down those he sees as more successful to cover up his own failings. Juvi567 Oh come on. And yes, there are many beautiful women in Russia. She would be a 9 in Moscow. Again, we are just talking purely on a physical level. For all I know her soul might rate a 2. But her face and body are the top end of the spectrum. No need to lose objectivity in other areas just because many women make us angry. But hell, my ex fuck buddy looked more beautiful than her. Not worth losing sleep over, much less offing yourself. Marcus Aurelius More specifically, I have more curves than she does and brown-eyed brunettes are a dime a dozen. Dude was good looking and could have EASILY found another chick, and probably a hotter one. Riso Abovo Yep, there is a ton of smaller, uglier, older and with much less money, or even unemployed dudes out there myself included , who still wake up every morning and work their asses off to maximize their chances for happiness. This guy had it much better than the majority and still could not handle the pressure. Interestingly, the most attractive Russians girls I have met turned out to be Finns or some other group! DeCode Sorry man, not impressed at all. That said they both are pretty. But a bubble ass, flat stomach, perfect tits, with wide hips and a pair of stripper legs — all giggling, bouncing, or being contorted as I express my lusty rage? Shep Schultz Me too. Sliding my arm around her waist was like grabbing living electricity. We were together for seven years. The depression finally broke when I left my home state and took a job on a fishing boat in Alaska. I still swim at least two miles a week with my hard driving teenage kids who get up at 5:30 am because they want this time with their old man. I hope she has put together an accurate picture of what she threw away. Success IS the best revenge. I would rather go to prison for four years than to ever do that again. If not for them, I would have had nothing to lose, the story would have already ended, and the ending would not have been happy. He had grown up and had taken a job on a factory processing boat, The Aleutian Star. I thought about his life and it became clear to me that I needed to get away from the constant reminders of my past life. The first wife and I had been very active politically, and we knew hundreds of people. I hated having to explain the failure, so I took the night jobs where I was unlikely to encounter movers and shakers I had known. I probably improved every day I was there. Pitching fish for hours at a time and beach seining 100 ft net will do that for a guy. My skipper was 70, fit, wickedly intelligent, short tempered, and a great model of a man who had his shit together. I was the only crewman who made it through the entire salmon season. Out of 5, only two of us made it through my first 72 hour Halibut opener. Words really are inadequate to describe the combination of frustration, sea-sickness, diesel fumes, dehydration, hunger and the blending together of several consecutive gray days and wet nights of non-stop hard physical work in a dicey environment. The mental and physical demands helped me to refocus. I could not have had better therapy. SurfinUSA My brother, I too have been through Hell in a Gasoline Suit. I even went to Target to buy plastic plates for her to throw at me. I sold my business soon after our divorce and went to California to live and get a year around tan on the beach. Shep Schultz The plastic plates made me chuckle. I remember that I took my vows very seriously, and the great lengths to which I went to keep them. I laugh at your pain, and invite you to laugh at mine. The foolishness of our past lives will never be repeated. She wanted it back, and at that point I was not giving up any leverage. She threatened to shoot me. That was 24 years ago, and it was the last time we ever spoke. It was actually in his closet while he was diddling her. For years she approached my buddies about getting it back and was either taken advantage of or rebuffed. SurfinUSA Sounds like your chicka was quite a rounder. Mine was just nuts, pathetically nuts. And you never knew what would set her off. You might be talking about your golf game and she would fly off the handle about playing too much damn golf and not paying enough attention to her. I know women do that kind of stuff all the time but her fury got out of hand… went overboard and too far, too extreme. This girl may be a cunt, but not because of her beauty. All Western girls are cunts, 7s often have larger egos than 9s. In a society that does not value commitment or family, EVERY girl will leave eventually. Even if you are the baddest of alphas, every girl will leave eventually, no matter if she is a 6,7,8 or 9. Love in Western times is impossible. Feeling deep affection for a girl is a primal male need, but in the age of female masculinity and general cunt-like attitudes, this is impossible it is only possible in the few remaining outposts of femininity around the world. Therefore only the needs of sex and ego-pleasuring are coverable. The only difference between dating a 7 with a shitty personality and a 9 with a shitty personality is ego. Your will genuinely feel you are the shit for getting this girl. This fades and the value of the relationship quickly degenerates to how this girl makes you feel one-on-one. If she has a shitty personality not all beautiful girls do , it will likely be you that terminates the relationship. The Lion King I agree with you on this one. In my pure beta days I used to think that only good looking girls where bitches infected with ego swine flu. And that the poor fat ugly ones are in fact beautiful inside. Getting involved with women teaches you a different thing. I have met beautiful women with beautiful personalities, and beautiful women you wish they could die. Bitchiness and cuntiness seem to be uncorrelated to physical appearance in my experience. The recipe for making Frankenstein. DirtyHarold Any long term relationship with this type of woman will only end in disaster for the male. Out only for herself and due to her good looks; will always get away with it because rules are bent and pasts forgotten. Always able to play to victim as well, after she ruins you. Once things end, she forgets about you in an hour and any reference of you is simply an inconvenience or something to take to the pawn shop. So I really wonder : did she cause his death? Was he just a loser? This story is so open to interpretations it would make a good movie plot. Is she the evil criminal? Is she the innocent candid girl? Will we ever know? There are a lot of high minded self righteous prigs in this discussion thread slamming the Hollyslut that this poor bastard killed himself over. Real live, compassionate, loving, caring baby mommas live in the West, just like in the Sanctimonious Eastern Bloc. So deal with it you guys, you sound Pavlovian. SurfinUSA Angelique, the cursing and sexual references on this subject do set off male angst about nasty pain in their past. The invective could be much, much worse. There is no greater frustrated man than one who tries to endure a cranky bitch. It took a very long time to get over the pain. It was like having a limb amputated without anesthetic. That said, I have no regrets and know it was the right decision to leave. The psycho destroyed romantic inclinations in me. Happiness is created within oneself. You should emphasize that this is how women primarily are in America. In countries with significantly more beautiful women, their value is normally less and their ability to earn and extract money is also less generally. Her face is semi-exotic but not that young-looking and not that impressive. This woman has a low social IQ and seems like a complete moron. Why is she praised for having close to zero femininity especially with respect to her thinking? Every man has his own tastes. But comparing an attractive woman to an attractive prostitute is more like sour grapes, unless the attractive woman is a whore herself. I could compare a lot of the hotties my buddies or I dated or banged in the past, to hot hookers. Then what would I imply by comparing them? That I or my buddies bedded attractive hooker look-alikes? Thanks for taking one for the team. Take out your wallet and have a look at the picture of your mom. I bang women with normal clavicles and rounded elbows. You should accept nothing less. Not like this troll woman pictured above. I have smelt the pussy juices and queefs of women that far surpass the she-beast of which we discuss. Her slim waist and firm ass ruined by the sharp elbows of homeliness. I would never even allow her supple mouth to attempt to revive my flagging yet glorious and revolutionary turnip-cock. If that collarbone entered my grocery aisle I would refuse its coupon. I urge you, Comrade Bucky, to deny the hate you feel for your dick and refuse to give this woman sex-in-mouth. Or in poosy or anoos. This woman clearly is not pretty. Smooth skin, and trim figure lies. The fascist invader Hitlerite elbows and counter-revolutionary upper torso is plain to see for any good comrade. Some women are incapable of forming an emotional bond with men, mostly because they know there is nothing to their personality. Her looks and the ability to seduce men are all she has. Men bring several things to the table, while most women are dull and shallow and they know it. I guarantee that if he had game and made her chase him early on, she would have been his fuck buddy for years to come. Oneitis can be deadly. WTF are you doing in an LTR boy? Xavier Ray Wolfson, I think you are the only other person on this site who gets it. Want her to stick around? Take the condom off, bust a fucking nut in her, put a baby in her belly and turn her into a mom. Even if she goes out the door later, you still won. Want her to have the power in the relationship FOREVER? Just hold off on doing that, champ. These kids think they can just hold onto a woman forever in limbo and never have her go off in search of a man with seed that actually works. Sex is about babies. I have never been in a LTR trying to convince any woman to stay. Its a rare man who tries to trap a woman with a child. As for winning… there are no wins in having a woman give birth to your child and then leave you. People got into a courtship because they wanted to reproduce…. You go to where demand is if you want to do well. SurfinUSA You should emphasize that this is how women primarily are in America. In countries with significantly more beautiful women, their value is normally less and their ability to earn and extract money is also less generally. Where do you guys dream up all this shit? You think that all the beautiful women are in Hollywood and American men swoon and sit and beat their meat dreaming over some air-brushed picture? That is a stereotype that is equally unfair as the one you are selling with your sanctimonious comment. There are gold diggers and barracudas in every society, not just the US or Britain. This story made headlines because the guy was a self made man that had a fat bank account. You think that is what happens in America all the time? Do you think guys end their own life because some chick has a big rack, probably silicone implants , a big ass and a nice set of wheels and then shoots him down? You have issues that you need to deal with. General Stalin Yet another glaring example of the importance of the Red Pill, Game, and self improvement. Even if the guy had these things and still lost her, he would have the reserve, solidarity, and self-confidence to rest on his laurels knowing that Adrian Grenier and Leonardo DiCaprio are getting his sloppy seconds. He go it in — damn shame he felt the need to off himself. He needed to use the Law of Abundance to his advantage. He had oneitis like Robin Thicke and failed to see that he could have easily had similar attention from other hot women at these social gatherings. Maybe it would have altered things a bit as she would have turned on her completive spirit and worked at keeping him from viewing the younger ones that would be eager to please him. Handsome and financially sound man entering his 40s offing himself over some transiently-attractive female? A simple overseas vacation would have been the perfect bromide for his depression. A simple stay-at-home woman who would lavish love and attention on him was all he needed. GetItGoing I have to agree. A guy like that would do very well overseas, I guarantee it. Swashbuckler In other words, always have abundance on your side. Money is one thing because it can be replaced but emotions? James Russell Great post. This is an excellent treatise on the dangers of ignorance of hypergamy. We can absolutely NOT allow ourselves to become too deeply invested in women with absurdly high SMV. This man was accomplished, rich, handsome and fit. He certainly had a higher SMV than most of the men reading and commenting right now myself included. And yet even he was not enough to keep this woman content. Hypergamy means that women are ALWAYS looking to trade up. Keep it close…not too close. Andrew Stern is the cautionary tale of the Paper Alpha; money, looks, status…but no game. To become too deeply attached to something as fickle, capricious, nonsensical and hypergamous as a woman is to invite nothing put pain and sadness into your life. James Russell The Alpha male is a real, demonstrable facet of nature; there is a hierarchy in male power dynamics. Clark Kent Nowadays there are alpha-males but no Alpha-male. Keep in mind, any of these men may dip in their value for some out of their control reason i. Same thing happened to me… I went from careless rockstar type to trying to put together a high status career. Some other guy was already one-step ahead for having started a couple years earlier… mind you by his age I would have been light years ahead of him… hypergamy is in the now perceptual… not rational Some men can be great in multiple aspects of life but there are simply too many men nowadays for one to be a specialist in everything…. We have the illusion of civilization because only the fringes are acting out violently. Phantom We also tend to idolize beauty too much. Does she help me have good times, or does she bring more trouble and hassle in my life? Never forget, guys: No matter how cute she looks, someone somewhere is tired of her shit. The problem with this strategy, though, is that it relies on male desperation not having any limits. I suspect this to be a grave mistake. This is because the average quality of women in the West has been dropping fast, perhaps even faster than male desperation has been rising. If that is the case, we will soon reach a point where most men will simply not accept the Western women who are available, no matter how desperate they might have become. It will only increase in tempo over time as more and more women drop below the acceptable rate for most men. Ask any black man in the US and he will tell you how low American black women have gone. The result is that right now over 70% of black women over 15 are unmarried. I am not saying they were never married, but rather that 70% at any given time are without a man. Their response is to sink ever lower and double down on their man hating. They are alone for a reason. White American and then Hispanic and Asian American women are headed for the same trajectory. Imagine all of the alpha guys running around Hollywood. Every time she leaves the house she probably gets hit on by movie producers, porn stars, actors, pro athletes, etc. A quiet Midwestern guy is dead in the water. I honestly think that in LA, having a reliable young 7 that you fuck once or twice a month can help you keep your feelings from getting too hung up on her. If she was screaming my name every nigh I might be tempted to regurgitate the red pill and catch the itis. Helmuth the Elder The real take away from this cautionary tale is not to commit to ambitious women. I can tell you from experience that these women find men on the rise and hop aboard. However, if you delude yourself into believing the fairy tale, these relationships can become parasitic quick. My advice: Stop trying to reinvent the wheel. Let her do what she was born to do and in turn mirror her actions. Use her strengths i. Dat Nigga 100% agreed. Anyway, I met her in a time of my life where I was pretty comfortable with myself. No trouble getting with women. I thought she was just going to be some stupid, hot ditz. I think that approach actually helped in attracting her to me but damn was I wrong. Her social IQ would rival many on here. From that night on we dated for about a year. I could have frank, open conversations with her. She knew, similar to us on ROK, what was up in regards to many social aspects. It was refreshing as hell. Until eventually I just got sick of it. So I ended it. No crying, no melodramatics; Just them trying to sell me on why it would be unwise to break-up so soon and hearing the other services their bank…I mean she offers. Imagine the scene from American Psycho where Christian Bale breaks up with Reese Witherspoon. That is of course if she passes the boner test. Dead Vargas The problem is screening and being centered. He clearly didn´t know hot to screen for a good girlfriend. A woman who is notoriously hypergamous is definitely not an option. He just let his personality be completely filled by the external things he supposedly owned. That is a relationship full of drama as well. This happens with every woman. Women lose attraction for men soon, because basically women are ungrateful creatures. The hypergamy references mentioned by some readers below are too superb because that also being a core trait of women, makes women never stick around you. They indeed always look to trade you. Which was never enough for her. Look at Leo in comparison. But he probably butt fucked Cleary, and so did Adrian Grenier, who look in worser physical shape than Stern. But the only saving grace is maybe he got to fuck her, bang her holes, and commit what not sexual depravity with her at some time. Secondly, models and celebrities are nothing but beautiful whores, both physically and emotionally. Any woman who has camera addiction — whether it may be a professional camera, or a smartphone camera, is an actress. Women like these are all phony, so use them and pass them around,. But what must be noted is Katie Cleary was also raised by a mother, not father. One more thing men to beware of. You could find a Katie Cleary in Europe, Asia, or Latin America, or a woman from these areas could end up embodying her easily. Women are not perfect. Always keep your emotional distance from them, treat them like a dangerous but beautiful snake, the way snake tamers do. And never love them, even if you may fuck them as much as you want , and be prepared to walk away from them AT ALL TIMES. Women can do the same to you, so keep these points in mind. Pump and dump is the way, and never commit. But respectfully you really lost me on the above remark. This is supplication, not sound advice. The ultimate thing that killed Stern was his naive belief that a female is capable of being loyal and loving; and that he believed any bullshit sweet talking excrement she fed him. A woman is generally not capable of loving a man the way he loves her. This is THE MOST CLOSELY GUARDED SECRET OF ALL OF HUMANITY. If all men of the human race realized this they sure as fuck would not marry, but instead pump and dump until the extinction of man. Rick Derris I must offer a classic song for Cleary: I bust my balls and break my back And come home to a slut! You broke your vows, you dirty bitch, I should kick you in your cunt RUPTURED NUPTIALS! Better to leave the bitch Atlanta Man For the record she was a fame whore and was determined to be on Real Housewives Of Beverly Hills and she encouraged Stern to get her there by forcing him to attend expensive parties and hang out with cast members. He ended up investing with on the the shows cast members and lost a shit ton of money he and the cast member both committed suicide. He did not just lose his girl, he lost the money to attract a new one of similar looks. This guy had a fatal case of Oneitis and it should never come to that. Women like her thrive on male attention and validation no matter how much attention you give to her. She should have never married him since her goals seem to be purely fame and career. But again, her vanity and being told how great she is her whole life blinded her to this courtesy. A guy like this would have benefited greatly from that mindset. JLundone First of all, where does this guy get off on offing himself? What a fucken pansy. WORST reason to off yourself EVER. All bitches whatever number your monkey brain assigns them 9 8 10 3 are just useless pieces of flesh after you empty your nut sack. It astounds me how unrealistic society can be. They are just people. The only thing you can control is the way you think and this starts by changing your core beliefs. Women are useless whores on this planet for our pleasure. No if and or buts. My mom, your mom…all of our mothers are also whores. Get used to it, its the truth. Nobody cares about you, nobody loves you. You need to accept this as TRUTH and rise above the society bull shit games and FUCK these women sideways to hell, have a cigarette and call it a day. If you wanna have emotions about it you can go fuck yourself and the fucken unicorn you rode in on. Have an excellent and pleasant day :D! Chilangringo The REAL tragedy here is that Stern did not divorce this winch BEFORE he off-ed himself. They were apparently separated, not yet divorced. That means this bitch has a claim on ALL of the money he made, even the money he made before he married her. She is first in line legally to all of it. For her, this was probably the ideal outcome. She was probably well aware that he had problems with depression, suicidal thoughts, and was emotionally sensitive. That would explain the series of photos with alpha males she made sure were appearing in the media for Stern to see. This is the topic that this posting should have been about. Or, at least, you should investigate this angle and write another post. Men need think about this: Do you really want that bitch that hurt you to get your fortune? I fucking hope not. A trophy is something which sits on a shelf and does NOTHING but require polishing. She should have been removed from toxic Hollywood life before it began as a virgin, CONQUERED from wishbone to crown, her fine waspwaist disfigured and expanded from harboring souls from the heavens to deliver before her master. The only CONTROL she is worthy of is control of the omlette pan flip between titfeedings and lullabys, and of course polishing her dear masters staff. Anyways, personal tastes I guess. Chilangringo A major point missed in this article — Cleary is obviously hyper-narcissistic. Any man that wants to invest in a marriage MUST learn about personality disorders. A major problem with woman like this is that they know how to make themselves attractive to you. They have pseudo charisma. They appear to be so damned interesting. They will suck you in, get you to invest, then you get to see their true reptilian nature. For the regular guy, there are some simple things you can look out for. Get the fuck out. Know who you are. Accept who you are. If you decide to change something about yourself, it must be something that is driven from within, to please yourself. NEVER, ever decide that something needs to change because a woman in your life says so. Believe me, I learned this stuff the hard way. After going through a horrible experience pretty similar to what Stern went through — but not killing myself of course — I took a good hard look at myself. I also spent a lot of time reading, researching, learning. This experience, in fact, is how I ran into the Manosphere a while back. I learned my fucking lesson. Or, at least, they should be forewarned. If you are forewarned, then you are more likely to make it through this type of experience with your sanity in tact and get through to the other side. There is nothing in the mainstream media, or in school, or pretty much anywhere except the Manosphere that will give you an hint of the reality of narcissistic women like Cleary. So take what you read here seriously. So something written at the end mixed the message up for me. So what did this girl bring to the table besides a hot ass? Ironically, if you want to keep a beautiful woman — you should have the mentality where you constantly wonder what SHE brings to the table other than being attractive for the meantime, looks fade. JQ Unless you have power over her, I just do not see how can you handle her. She derives her own power from the massive attention she gets; she could have men more powerful, good looking, wealthy than you. On top of that, you live in a society that rewards and praises that kind of behaviour. Even if you had money, power and fame you basically have no control over her as she can leave you any time she wants. The only resource would be coercion; like if you were a big Mafia boss or an Arab king she would understand the consequences of misbehaving…or you could try to pull a Chris Brown and see if she gets hopelessly devoted to you after that. Locking down a hot+smart chick is going to be harder than just a plain old hot chick. Smart chicks are more likely to think themselves out of happiness and always want more more more. Also they can be more manipulative and able to get into your head. You always want to be smarter than your chick. If even rich attractive males get discarded by heartless bitches, do you think some keyboard Alpha is going to do any better? If your chick gives her holes out of her own free will to another man, will you blame him? When will men understand the problem with promiscuity lies with women, not men? Women are the gatekeepers of sex. Women are the culprits, not men. Grant All said, I think men should put off marriage till they find a good woman. There are dangers associated with every kind of woman. Hot and rich girl 7 and above : Deal with her hypergamy. Try to stop someone to take her away, or stop her from leaving you. Jealousy trap if she flirts with others. Plus the more hotter she is, the more likely she started fucking earlier. If she comes from a place where beautiful woman are found a lot, have even more worries. The same thing as the hot girl, but the hot and poor girl sluts around out of her needs, not wants. But again, she is still a slut or whore. The good things: Hot body and sex on demand. She knows she must fuck to keep you hooked on to her. The true unicorn is the virginal woman who falls in this category. Average to below average looking rich girl 6 and below : Still sluts around, out of desperation because she has to lower her standards. Especially in poorer countries where beautfiul women are more. In America, she has to do the same. But again, she sluts around only to men who have a status in society, or who are good looking. The good thing she brings to the table is her status, cash and social circle, so you can exploit that to social climb yourself. Most men end up marrying this type. Average to below average looking, poor or average income girl 6 and below : A lot of men would think she is the safest type to marry. This type of girl actually has to slut it around the most, to get a man. Because she knows that men will gravitate to the hotties. In fact, her notch count can be more than the other types. If that is the case, this woman makes the worst bet for marriage because too many cocks screw up her bonding and emotional circuitry. This woman usually has a low self esteem. The good thing she brings to the table is sex on demand, because she has low self esteem. She knows she must fuck to keep you hooked on to her. She may keep her holes strictly for you, but that is the only good thing she brings to the table. Hot virgin: Two types. Good virgin and Bad Virgin. Some virgins turn to sluts after marriage, they discover their inner slut on their hymeneal night. Which is bad for the husband. A woman never forgets the time when a man first penetrates her asshole, her cunt, her mouth for the first time in her life. No woman forgets her first time. So be that man — ideally in a marriage. Anything more than one dick for a woman, is basically a lottery for you if you choose to commit to her. Which creates baggage, and makes her increasingly dissociate between sex, love and loyalty. The more number of men a woman has fucked makes her masculine in her attitude towards sex, even if not in her behavior, which might still appear feminine and graceful. That is why marriage is THE MOST IMPORTANT decision a man will make in his life. So take it with the utmost care. That is why game, and sleeping with as many women as possible will help you to understand the intricacies of female nature better. The most important thing when it comes to marriage or the potential of a good wife, was, is and will always be — virtue. Select the woman who has it. The other types are all, pump and dump. I think their marriages were on the rocks much before it happened. Who knows what problems he was facing. And if that was the case, maybe she threatened to reveal that to the press, or their friend circle. Your sexual, financial, or personal life becomes a fodder for the press. You get scrutinized for every small mistake that you do, by the world. Maybe he realized later that she married him for his status. Or maybe he found her slutting about. So he killed himself out of shame. Either ways, marriage is a risk. Mcgoo The phenomenon where otherwise healthy men go HOMO-APESCHITZ over female is a damned CHEMICAL REACTION, understand this. A good man can act like a damned lemming when affected. Dom Suda This article is awesome. It keeps reminding me why the Red Pill should be bought in monthly supplies. A great advantage to being with an above average attractive chick is that it helps you towards more pussy outlets. Maybe I should fuck him to make her jealous. It is consistent with my observation that tall good-looking men and possibly rich ones too tend toward being too beta. Unless you consider him making his money and career his alpha side. I read the story about him. What was mentioned here about her critiquing his clothes extended to her completely changing over where he lived. To paraphrase a line from a movie, all that stuff that he was carrying around about measuring up was like thinking he had to carry around a two bags of bricks. All he had to do was just put it down. Odd thing is, somebody in hollywood that actually did something and was good at it, as in an actor or musician as opposed to a celebrity I make the distinction might have had a good relationship with him. You just said exactly why she married him. Daniel Holland The term Aggressive Attention Seeker sticks out to me. All women want validation and attention, so where is the line between normal to aggressive? If I were to hazard a guess, normal is a desire for positive attention while feeling chagrin for any harm caused while seeking it. Aggressive is simply wanting attention period. That jawline, almost masculine, is what drops her off 1 point. Ivan I think majority feel unworthy. Yanks especially since they are not used to be surrounded by beautiful women. That is the root of the problem. That behavior extends even here with conversations about body and ratings of male attractiveness. Male confidence should be built-in. It should be like energy in the universe. This man was obviously suffering from depression. The divorce and him seeing her with Leo really fucked with his already damaged ego which pushed him to kill himself. He could have EASILY pulled another girl, maybe not as famous but his options clearly outweighed 99% of men in this country. The guy was depressed and depression is not joke its a big reason why tens of thousands kill themselves every year. My top puta in Mexico has a 9. Good thing she loves it doggy!!! Wtf would you MARRY a girl like that? She has one purpose and that is her sexuality; hell, she has made a living off it. If there are any guys out there that have LTRs with girls like this in the 8-9 range, how is it? Just curious because it seems to me if you can bed women like this then why would you settle on just one? Ok, you do all the work. But then again, she can still divorce his ass and get half his money. So moral of the story, you gotta have game to get and keep hot chicks. Marrying a beautiful woman is a bad proposition for men however. Brock How many of the writers on this site actually have any sort of psychological background other than their bro experience that they expect us to take as truth? These articles and this site would be a lot more credible at least to me if some of the analysis made of situations like these actually came from a qualified professional that specializes in human dynamics and relationships. This article leaves that out. If the guy started tampering hard with his brain chemicals via hormone replacement stuff then that could explain the suicidal plunge. Had an LTR with a model. The moment she became my focus I lost her and getting back up was hard. I was able to manage it throughout a very long period of time because she revolved about me and I never took part in her bullshit or the bullshit world she was within. For my own good, I wish I would fall in love with a less than beautiful woman, maybe even a bit chubby. If she is an actress or model this counts 10x. He didnt knew the basics, how to handle top women and thats what you get as a good looking semi-nice-guy. Top women are not for whimps. You better be an asshole from the core of your heart to the tip of your nose, 100% pure motherfucking asshole 7 days a week, 25! Stuki Investing emotionally in any woman not carrying or raising your child, is just plain silly. Women sometimes do come equipped with other useful qualities, but their overwhelming main purpose is being a breeding vessel and mother. No woman without demonstrated competency in that role, should ever be elevated to any level above mere plaything, if that. Women today have no innate value whatsoever unless you count a cum drizzled with a cock count in the hundreds gash anything of remote value… how about doing a mental makeup removal and you can see her beauty as with most things with Team Twat is just lies and deception. Fuck this simp ass mangina bullshit. Men lead to learn the code. The first time it happens people are GONE. This is what I follow. There is no balance. When there is no balance in a situation you have to get outside of it or hover above it. When she fucks up you boot her ass for good. Same with everyone else. Trying to deal and negotiate with them is how your ass gets manipulated every time. Fuckit Men like Andrew Stern, who are attractive and rich, are on the upper echelon of men. To see that his cunt wife did this to him and probably is sucking cocks as we speak shows that women have ZERO CONCEPT of honor, religion, god, morality, or anything. They are barely above animals. In fact, I would say they are below animals in the quality of life they can bring you. They are worthless in every single way but one, and I would not cry at all if they were all sent to the bottom pit of hell to burn for eternity. I have no sympathy left at all for women, or society. I was once a good, nice young man with happy dreams and thoughts of a family but as soon as I saw how terrible and selfish and hypergamous women are, I dropped all of my ethics and morals because I saw there was no point at all. Let it burn, seriously. Let them all fucking rot in hell. Ricky Vaughn This woman is a concubine — a whore for rich men — but Andrew Stern let her beauty blind him. One is the equivalent of a Porsche and the other a beat up old Kia, but both should be regarded as tools. MrBiggs I see way better looking girls in eastside LA. Go to the Whole Foods in Venice and you will see way better looking women with natural beauty. StochasticFats On a serious note Athlone, thanks for a great article. Any tips on not ending up like this guy? It goes to show, looks, fame and fortune are no substitute for red pill. Red pill teaches both. It sounds like Stern was playing outside of his element. He tried too hard to fit in with the hollywood celeb crowd, wifing up one. His business catered to them. But he was playing with fire. All men know a hot woman and a hot car are not that different. Personally I think the wife was smart. Stern was able to keep a good facade, but no doubt his wife knew about his mental deficiencies, and was looking to get out. Not too many successful businessmen are offing themselves because their girl is flirting around. She was all curves with natural double Ds. She had a beautiful face with a 1000 watt smile. I learned after the wedding that it was all a fake facade for a truly horrid bitch. I learned the lesson that I urge every man here to take to heart; all the beauty in the world does not make up for one speck of bitch. If you find your dream girl and find that speck of bitch you must drop her like she is a lit stick of dynamite which she is and run the other way as fast as you can. When you see a beautiful woman remember, somewhere there is a man that is completely fed up with putting up with her shit. BTW, I am married to a very beautiful woman now who is 28 years younger than me. But she is not a bitch. The difference is not in the world but in me. I have changed in being better able to select a woman of character, less blinded by the fog of testosterone, and being a lot more alpha in how I deal with women. All women will walk all over you if you let them. Now that I am older I have learned never to fully invest in any woman. You must be willing and able to walk away at the drop of a hat or they will own you. And if they own you they will hate you. My current wife is hit on all the time when we go out. She does not flirt because she knows the rules. She asks me if I worry about these guys. I tell her no. She asks if I care if she flirts back or goes with these guys. Sometimes she says I would never be able to find another woman like me. My response is, no, the next one will be completely different. J Taco Personally, she looks average, plain Jane to me. She looks like a cunt. Looks like more work than is worth it. Catracho Hmmm I agree with the low emotional investment thing, thats crucial with every woman you date, I call it the minimum investment law; once you learn how to do it, its pretty easy, you dont have to gimmick anything, just know that every girl is a whore looking for the duplex PENIS+MONEY, so she has no emotional weight in your life, give that love and attention to your family, real friends, your dreams, your life and above all, yourself… love yourself! Also theres a frame mistake in saying: Not anyone can manage a girl that beautiful , you are putting that human being in a pedestal, dont think like that, just enjoy being yourselves, relax, dont give that much importance to the girl, fuck her brains out, and then go to have some beers with your buddies or girlfriends without giving a shit. SurfinUSA Fundamental Truth 1- No matter how beautiful a woman is, somewhere some guy is tired of her. Soon she is laughing at you behind your back. These women are barracudas. Either accept her for who she is or bail out as soon as possible. A man must learn that his life is complete if he can sit in a room alone and enjoy his own company. That man is independent and can give of himself fully and receive the love of others as they choose to give it without losing his self-esteem if they fail in his expectations. The best expectations of people are no expectations. No man is an island, but he is not a doormat either. Most beautiful women have self-esteem issues themselves. They overcompensate for them. Take advantage of those issues. Guys complain that women go for guys who treat them like crap. Be direct and to the point. None of this is new. Sarafina Just wanted to post from a woman and psychologists perspective. Also wanted to say that I like a lot of the material on ROK. The idea of having to fill oneself up from within instead of with material possessions is right on. In fact, none of us, men or women, can truly have healthy relationships until we figure out how to meet our own needs and have true self esteem. I think she had self esteem problems and a hole in her heart bigger than the Grand Canyon. This caused tremendous insecurity and she was also seeking people and things to fill that hole. It appears Andrew was in a similar mindset. They were both probably looking to each other to fill the emptiness. Andrew looks as if he used money and prestige to fill the hole. Otherwise they often cause his demise. I like the Ferrari and the everclear analogy. On another topic…There are a lot of American women out there who are not worth your time in general. European women are much better in that they still realize there is value in being a woman and doing womanly things such as cooking and dressing like a woman. I have the sense that in the US, so many women hate men, but at the same time cannot live without them. This type of attitude is partially responsible for the breakdown of modern relationships. Also, try to notice red flags in the beginning and have the willpower to cut things off. It does not get better. Frankly, if I were a guy, I am pretty sure I would join the MGTOW movement or marry someone from overseas. Being entangled in the claws pf comfort. However, I felt the need to add my 2 cents. As I read the description the sources were putting forward about this woman, certain details were ringing a bell for me and I became suspicious. So I went to see if I could get any of her personal history off Google. Sure enough, my suspicions were confirmed: she has no father. You are also, by default, impugning the shit upbringing she had from her single mother. Again reinforcing a point the manosphere often makes: single mothers are bad mothers, both statistically and as this article indicates anecdotally. William Hall What a load of crap. His identity was based on his ability to have a beautiful wife. Not exactly a strong foundation for self-identity. Woman can make a good man great, not by how sexually desirable she is, but by her good character which compells you to be a better man than you were yesterday. Nobody on Earth is worth hurting yourself. I do have better things to do tbh than excessively chasing a girl period!

Because love conquers all. They co-own the glad-production company Dirty Films. Google DoubleClick Google provides ad serving technology and runs an ad network. Marketing Google AdSense This is an ad network. They are all-around much more attractive to me. In other words, if a woman meets two men in their late forties, one who has been social and the other a lifelong bachelor, she should choose the one who has been married before. The good thing she brings to the table is her status, cash and social circle, so you can exploit that to social climb yourself. In America, she has to do the same. Helmuth the Tout The real take away from this cautionary tale is not to commit to ambitious women. You really don't know how seriously she will take you, whether she will accept you in that way. Read Next: Brethren She is fine as fuck, but this Stern dude should have done some more homework.